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This is episode s12e250! Yay!

Our reading today Numbers 13-16. After the reading, I’ll have some comments for you. I’m calling today’s episode “Stubborn.”  

Comments on Numbers 16

Stubborn, stubborn, stubborn. Korah leads a rebellion against Moses and Aaron, and God causes the ground to swallow up all those associated with him. And the people saw and knew that it was the Lord who did it, and that the Lord was confirming that Moses was his chosen leader for them. But the very next day the entire nation of Israel came against Moses and Aaron again! saying they “killed the people of the Lord.” Hello? Were you not listening? So once again God was prepared to wipe them all out with a plague. But Moses, with a pastor’s heart, told Aaron to quickly prepare a sacrifice for the people, and they stopped the plague before it killed everyone. 

I remember the first time I tried to read through the Bible (unsuccessfully, I might add). I had only been a Christian for about five years at this point. I said, “Right after God does something miraculous, they turn their backs on Him! How can these people be so dumb?” And the Lord spoke to my heart and said, “You do the same thing.”

Beloved, we are so much like the children of Israel. How many times have we seen God’s will, either through God’s word, a message from the pastor, or the Holy Spirit speaks to our heart, and then we, in our rebellion, go the opposite way? Multiple times. And yet, the blood that Jesus shed on the cross brings forgiveness to us again and again. His sacrifice paid the price, once…for all. 

God knows that we are a stubborn lot. He knows that just because we know right from wrong does not mean that we will always choose what’s right. That is why He paid such an enormous price for us. Because the debt was so huge, the payment had to be inconceivably large. It took the brutal death of His only begotten Son to bring atonement for my sins, and for yours. It is nearly unthinkable, but as Hebrews 9:22 says, “…without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness (of sins).

We can never repay the debt. All we can do is give all we can. And all we have is all we are. All I have…is me. I came into the world naked, and naked I will go out. The best I can do is give my life to Him in the time between those two events. I cannot earn salvation. I cannot pay Him back. I can only give my life back to Him in gratitude and love. And this I freely choose to do.

What about you?

Today’s Bible Translation

Bible translation used in today’s episode: Ch. 13 NIRV; Ch. 14 NIV; Ch. 15 NLT; Ch. 16 ESV

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Steve Webb 0:00
Hello Israel were you not listening?

Steve Webb 0:10
Hello, this is the Lifespring family Audio Bible episode s 12 e 250. Yay. More about that later. Coming to you from Riverside, California and podcasting since 2004.

John C. Dvorak 0:22
Steve Webb, also known as Sir OG Godcaster,

Adam Curry 0:26
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Steve Webb 0:28
Welcome. Thank you for inviting me into your day today. This is the daily show where we’re reading through the entire Bible in a year. Our reading today is numbers 13 through 16. After the reading, I will of course have some comments for you. The show notes page for today’s episode is at Lifespring media.com/s 12 e 250. If you’d like to email me, please do so at Steve at Lifespring media.com. Let’s get started.

Steve Webb 0:55
Numbers chapter 13. The Lord spoke to Moses, he said, Send some men to check out the land of Canaan. I’m giving it to the people of Israel send one leader from each of Israel’s tribes. So Moses sent them out from the desert of Perrin. He sent them as the Lord had commanded. All of them were leaders of the people of Israel. Here are their names that were semua from the tribe of Ruben Shem. Ewa was the son of Zacher. They were che fat from the tribe of Simeon shape that was the son of hooray. There was Caleb from the tribe of Judah. Caleb was the son of Jephunneh. There was a gal from the tribe of Issachar. I gal was the son of Joseph. They were so Shia from the tribe of Ephram, Oh Shia was the son of Nun. There was bow tie from the tribe of Benjamin bow tie was the son of refu. There was Gabrielle from the tribal Zebulon Gatto was the son of so die. There was Gabbi from the tribe of Manasseh gad I was the son of Su sai Manasa was a tribe of Joseph. There was Amiel from the tribe of Dan Amiel was the son of Gamal I, there was Seetha from the tribe of Asher seethrough was the son of Michael. There was nearby from the tribe of Naphtali. Nearby was the son of off Sai. There was Gil from the tribe of Gad. Gill was the son of May chi. Those are the men Moses sent to check out the land. He gave the name Joshua to Hosea, the son of Nun, Moses set them to check out Canaan, he said, go up through the Negev desert, go on into the central hill country. See what the land is like? See whether the people who live there are strong or weak. See whether they are few or many. What kind of land did they live in? Is it good or bad? What kind of towns do they live in? Do the towns have high walls around them or not? How was the soil? Is it rich land or poor land? Are there trees on it or not? Do your best to bring back some of the fruit of the land. It was the season for the first ripe grapes. So the men went up and checked out the land. They went from the desert of zin as far as rehab, it was in the direction of libo Hayworth, they went up through the Negev desert and came to Hebron. That’s where a hymen shy and tall my left. They belong to the family line of a neck. Hebron had been built seven years before Zoan Zoan was a city in Egypt. The men came to the Valley of Eshkol. There they cut off a branch that had a single bunch of grapes on it. Two of them carried it on a pole between them. They carried some pomegranates and figs along with it. That place was called the Valley of ash call. That’s because the men of Israel cut off a bunch of grapes there. At the end of 40 days, the men returned from checking out the land. The men came back to Moses, Aaron and the whole community of Israel. The people were at k dash in the desert of patron. There the men reported to Moses and Aaron and all of the people. They showed them the fruit of the land. They gave Moses their report, they said, we went into the land you said his to it really does have plenty of milk and honey, here’s some fruit from the land. But the people who live there are powerful. Their cities have high walls around them and are very large. We’ve and some members of the family line have a knack there. The Amalekites live in the Negev desert. They Hittites, Jebusites, and Amorites live in the central hill country. The Canaanites live near the Mediterranean Sea. They also live along the Jordan River. Then Caleb interrupted the men who were speaking to Moses. He said, We should go up and take the land. We can certainly do it. But the men who had gone up with him spoke they said, We can’t attack those people. They’re stronger than we are. The men spread a bad report about the land among the people of Israel. They said the land we checked out destroys those who live in it. All of the people we saw there were very big and tall. We saw the Nephilim there. We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and that’s also how we seem to them. The children have a knack came from the Nephilim.

Steve Webb 5:10
Numbers chapter 14. That night all the members of the community raised their voices and wept aloud. All the Israelites grumbled against Moses and Aaron, and the whole assembly said to them, If only we had died in Egypt, or in this wilderness, why is the Lord bringing us to this land only to let us fall by the sword? Our wives and children will be taken as plunder? Wouldn’t it be better for us to go back to Egypt, and they said to each other, we should choose a leader and go back to Egypt. Then Moses and Aaron fell facedown in front of the whole Israelite assembly gathered there, Joshua, son of Nun, and Caleb son of Jephunneh, who were among those who had explored the land, tore their clothes and said to the entire Israelite assembly, the land we pass through and explored is exceedingly good. If the Lord is pleased with us, He will lead us into that land, a land flowing with milk and honey, and will give it to us only do not rebel against the Lord, and do not be afraid of the people of the land because we will devour them. Their protection is gone, but the Lord is with us. Do not be afraid of them. But the whole assembly talked about stoning them. Then the glory of the Lord appeared at the 10 of meeting to all the Israelites, the Lord said to Moses, how long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the signs I have performed among them, I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them. But I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they. Moses said to the Lord, then the Egyptians will hear about it. By your power you brought these people up from among them, and they will tell the inhabitants of this land about it. They have already heard that you, Lord are with these people, and that you Lord have been seen face to face that your cloud stays over them, and that you go before them and a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. If you put all these people to death, leaving none alive. The nations who have heard this report about you will say the Lord was not able to bring these people into the land he promised them on oath, so he slaughtered them in the wilderness. Now may the Lord strength be displayed just as you have declared, The Lord is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion, yet he does not leave the guilty and punished. He punishes the children for the sin of the parents, to the third and fourth generation in accordance with your great love. forgive the sin of these people, just as you have pardoned them from the time they left Egypt until now, the Lord replied, I have forgiven them as you asked. Nevertheless, as surely as I live, and as surely as the glory of the Lord fills the whole earth, not one of those who saw my glory in the signs I performed in Egypt and in the wilderness, but who disobeyed me and tested me 10 times, not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their ancestors. No one who was treated me with contempt will ever see it. But because my servant Caleb was a different spirit, and follows me wholeheartedly, I will bring him into the land he went to, and his descendants will inherit it. Since the Amalekites and the Canaanites are living in the valleys, turned back tomorrow and set out toward the desert along the route to the Red Sea. The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, how long will this wicked community grumble against me? I have heard the complaints of these grumbling Israelites, so tell them as surely as I live, declares the Lord, I will do to you the very thing I heard you say, in this wilderness, your bodies will fall, every one of you 20 years old or more who was counted in the census, and who has grumbled against me, not one of you will enter the land ice war with uplifted hand to make your home except Caleb, son of Jephunneh. And Joshua son of Nun, as for your children, that you said, would be taken as plunder, I will bring them in to enjoy the land you have rejected. But as for you, your bodies will fall in this wilderness. Your children will be shepherds here for 40 years suffering for your unfaithfulness, until the last of your bodies lies in the wilderness for 40 years, one year for each of the 40 days you explored the land, you will suffer for your sins and know what it is like to have me against you. I the LORD have spoken. And I will surely do these things to this whole wicked community, which has banded together against me. They will meet their end in this wilderness here they will die. So the men Moses had sent to explore the land who returned and made the whole community grumble against him by spreading a bad report about it. These men who were responsible for spreading the bad report about the land were struck down and died of a plague before the Lord of the men who went to explore the land. Only Joshua’s son of Nun and Caleb son of Jephunneh survived. When Moses reported this to all the Israelites they mourned bitterly. Early the next morning, they set out for the highest point in the hill country saying, now we’re ready to go up to the land the Lord promised, surely we have sinned. But Moses said, Why are you disobeying the Lord’s command, this will not succeed, do not go up because the Lord is not with you. You will be defeated by your enemies, for the Amalekites and the Canaanites will face you there. Because you have turned away from the Lord, He will not be with you and you will fall by the sword. Nevertheless, in their presumption, they went up toward the highest point in the hill country, though neither Moses nor the Ark of the Lord’s covenant moved from the camp. Then the Amalekites and the Canaanites who lived in that hill country came down and attack them, and beat them down all the way to hormone.

Steve Webb 11:02
Numbers chapter 15. Then the Lord told Moses, give the following instructions to the people of Israel. When you finally settle in the land I’m giving you, you will offer special gifts as a pleasing aroma to the Lord. These gifts may take the form of a burnt offering a sacrifice to fulfill a vow, a voluntary offering, or an offering at any of your annual festivals, and they may be taken from your herds of cattle or your flocks of sheep and goats. When you present these offerings, you must also give the Lord a grain offering of two quarts of choice flour mixed with one quart of olive oil. For each lamb offered as a burnt offering or a special sacrifice. You must also present one quart of wine as the liquid offering. If the sacrifice is a ram, give a grain offering a four quarts of choice flour mixed with a third of a gallon of olive oil, and give a third of a gallon of wine is the liquid offering. This will be a pleasing aroma to the Lord. When you present a young bull as a burnt offering or as a sacrifice to fulfill a vow or as a peace offering to the Lord. You must also give a grain offering of six quarts of choice flour mixed with two quarts of olive oil and give two quarts of wine is a liquid offering. This will be a special gift a pleasing aroma to the Lord. Each sacrifice of a bull RAM lamb or young goat should be prepared in this way. Follow these instructions with each offering your present. All of you native born Israelites must follow these instructions when you offer a special gift as a pleasing aroma to the Lord. If any foreigners visit you or live among you and want to present a special gift is a pleasing aroma to the Lord. They must follow the same procedures. Native born Israelites and foreigners are equal before the Lord and are subject to the same decrees. This is a permanent law for you to be observed from generation to generation, the same instructions and regulations will apply both to you and to the foreigners living among you. Then the Lord said to Moses, give the following instructions to the people of Israel. When you arrive in the land where I am taking you and you eat the crops that grow there, you must set some aside is a sacred offering to the Lord. Present a cake from the first of the flour you grind, and set it aside is the sacred offering as you do with the first grain from the threshing floor. throughout the generations to come. You are to present a sacred offering to the Lord each year from the first of your ground flour. But suppose you unintentionally failed to carry out all these commands that the Lord has given you through Moses. And suppose your descendants in the future failed to do everything the Lord has commanded through Moses. If the mistake was made unintentionally, and the community was unaware of it, the whole community must present a young bull for a burnt offering is a pleasing aroma to the Lord. It must be offered along with its prescribed grain offering and liquid offering. And with one male goat for a sin offering. With it the priests will purify the whole community of Israel, making them right with the Lord, and they will be forgiven. For it was an unintentional sin and they have corrected it with their offerings to the Lord. The special gift and the sin offering. The whole community of Israel will be forgiven, including the foreigners living among you, for all the people were involved in the sin. If one individual commits an unintentional sin, the guilty person must bring a one year old female goat for a sin offering. The priest will sacrifice it to purify the guilty person before the Lord and that person will be forgiven. The same instructions apply both to native born Israelites and to the foreigners living among you. But those who brazenly violate the Lord’s will whether native born Israelites or foreigners have blasphemed the Lord, and they must be cut off from the community. Since they have treated the Lord’s word with contempt, and deliberately disobeyed his command, they must be completely cut off and suffer the punishment for their guilt. One day while the people of Israel were in the wilderness, they discovered a man gathering wood on the Sabbath day. The people who found him doing this took him before Moses, Aaron and the rest of the community, they held him in custody because they did not know what to do with him. Then the Lord said to Moses, the man must be put to death, the whole community must stone him outside the camp. So the whole community took the man outside of the camp and stoned him to death just as the Lord had commanded Moses. Then the Lord said to Moses, give the following instructions to the people of Israel. throughout the generations to come, you must make tassels for the hems of your clothing, and attach them with a blue cord. When you see the tassels you will remember and obey all the commands of the Lord, instead of following your own desires and defiling yourselves as you are prone to do. The tassels will help you remember that you must obey all my commands and be holy to your God. I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that I might be your God, I am the Lord your God.

Steve Webb 16:21
Numbers chapter 16. Now Cora, the son of is our son of Kohath, son of Levi, and Nathan and the Byram, the sons of Eliab. And on the son of pilaf, sons of Reuben took men. And they rose up before Moses with a number of the people of Israel 250 chiefs of the congregation, chosen from the assembly, well known men, they assemble themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said to them, You have gone too far. For all in the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the Lord is among them. Why then do you exalt yourselves above the assembly of the Lord? When Moses heard it, he fell on his face. And he said to Cora, and all his company, in the morning, the Lord will show who he is, and who is holy, and we’ll bring him near to him, the one whom he chooses, he will bring near to him, do this, take sensors, Cora and all his company, put fire in them, and put incense on them before the Lord tomorrow, and the man whom the Lord chooses shall be the holy one, you have gone too far sons of Levi. And Moses said to Cora, here now you sons of Levi, is it too small a thing for you that the God of Israel has separated you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you nearer to himself, to do service in the tabernacle of the Lord, and to stand before the congregation to minister to them? And that he has brought you near him? And all your brothers, the sons of Levi with you? And would you seek the priesthood also? Therefore, it is against the Lord, that you and all your company have gathered together? What is Aaron that you grumble against him? And Moses sent to call Nathan at a Bairam, the sons of Eliab. And they said, We will not come up, is it a small thing, but you have brought us up out of a land flowing with milk and honey, to kill us in the wilderness, that you must also make yourself a prince over us. Moreover, you have not brought us into a land flowing with milk and honey, nor given us inheritance of fields and vineyards Will you put out the eyes of these men, we will not come up. And Moses was very angry and said to the Lord, do not respect their offering, I have not taken one donkey from them, and I have not harmed one of them. And Moses said to Cora, be present you and all your company before the Lord you and they and Aaron tomorrow and let every one of you take his sensor and put incense on it. And every one of you bring before the Lord has sensor 250 sensors, you also and Aaron each his sensor. So every man took his sensor and put fire in them and laid incense on them and stood at the entrance of the tent of meeting with Moses and Aaron. Then Cora assembled all the congregation against them at the entrance of the tent of meeting. And the glory of the Lord appeared to all the congregation. And the Lord spoke to Moses and to Aaron saying, separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell on their faces and said, Oh God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin and will you be angry with all the congregation and the Lord spoke to Moses saying, Say to the congregation, get away from the dwelling of Korah, Dathan, and a Byron. Then Moses rose and went to Dayton in a Bairam. And the elders of Israel followed him. And he spoke to the congregation, saying, depart please from the tents of these wicked men and touch nothing of theirs, lest you be swept away with all their sins. So they got away from the dwelling of Cora, David and a Byron and day Then in a Byram came out and stood at the door of their tents together with their wives, their sons and their little ones. And Moses said, hereby you shall know that the Lord has sent me to do all these works, and that it has not been of my own accord. If these men die as all men die, or if they are visited by the fate of all mankind, then the Lord has not set me. But if the Lord creates something new, and the ground opens his mouth and swallows them up with all that belongs to them, and they go down alive into shield, then you shall know that these men have despised the Lord. And as soon as he had finished speaking, all these words, the ground under them split apart, and the earth opened up its mouth and swallowed them up with their households and all the people who belong to to Cora, and all their goods. So they had all that belong to them went down alive into Schiele, and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly. And all Israel who were around them fled it their cry for they said, Let the earth swallow us up, and fire came out from the Lord and consumed the 250 men offering the incense. Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, Tell Lea czar, the son of Aaron, the priest, to take up the sensors out of the Blaze, then scattered the fire far and wide, for they have become holy. As for the sensors of these men who have sinned at the cost of their lives, let them be made into hammered plates as the covering for the altar, for they offered them before the Lord, and they became holy. Thus they shall be assigned to the people of Israel. So le A’s are the priest took the bronze sensors, which those who were burned had offered. And they were hammered out as a covering for the altar, to be a reminder to the people of Israel, so that no outsider who is not of the descendants of Aaron should draw near to burn incense before the Lord, lest he become like Cora and his company, as the Lord said to him through Moses. But on the next day, all the congregation of the people of Israel grumbled against Moses and against Aaron, saying, You have killed the people of the Lord. And when the congregation had assembled against Moses and against Aaron, they turned toward the Tent of Meeting, and behold, the cloud covered it and the glory of the Lord appeared. And Moses and Aaron came to the front of the tent of meeting. And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, Get away from the midst of this congregation that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell on their faces. And Moses said to Aaron, take your sensor and put fire on it from the altar, and lay incense on it, and carry it quickly to the congregation and make atonement for them. For Wrath has gone out from the Lord, the plague has begun. So Aaron took it as Moses said, and ran into the midst of the assembly. And behold, the plague had already begun among the people. And he put on the incense and made atonement for the people. And he stood between the dead and the living, and the plague was stopped. Now those who died in the plague were 14,700 Besides those who died in the affair of Korra, and Aaron returned to Moses at the entrance of the tent of meeting when the plague was stopped.

Steve Webb 23:15
Stubborn, stubborn, stubborn, Cora led a rebellion against Moses and Aaron, and God caused the ground to swallow up all those associated with him. And the people saw in knew that it was the Lord who did it, and that the Lord was confirming that Moses was his chosen leader for them. But the very next day, can you believe it? The entire nation of Israel came against Moses and Aaron again, saying they killed the people of the Lord. Hello, Israel, were you not listening. So once again, God was prepared to wipe them all out with a plague. But Moses with a pastor’s heart, told Aaron to quickly prepare a sacrifice for the people. And they stopped the plague before it killed anyone, man. I remember the first time I tried to read through the Bible, unsuccessfully, I might add. I’d only been a Christian for about five years at this point. And I said to myself, right after God does something miraculous, they turn their backs on him. How can these people be so dumb? And the Lord spoke to my heart and he said, You do the same thing. Beloved, we are so much like the children of Israel. How many times have we seen God’s will either through His Word or a message from the pastor or the Holy Spirit speaks to our heart and then we in our rebellion, go the opposite way, so many times and yet, the blood that Jesus shed on the cross brings forgiveness to us again and again and again. His sacrifice paid the price once for all. God knows that we’re as stubborn lot. He knows that just because we know right from wrong does not mean that we will always choose what’s right. And that is why he paid such an enormous price for us. Because our sin debt was so huge that payment had to be inconceivably large. It took the brutal death of His only begotten Son to bring atonement for my sins and for yours. It’s, it’s almost unthinkable. But as Hebrews 922 says, without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sins. We can never repay the debt. And all we can do is give all we can, and all we have is all we are. All I have is me. I came into the world naked and naked, I’ll go out, the best I can do is give my life to him in the time between those two events. I can’t earn salvation. I can’t pay him back. I can only give my life back to him in gratitude, and love. And this is something that I freely choose to do about you. You have a comment? Let me know Lifespring media.com/s 12 e 250. Reading tomorrow is First Chronicles 20 through 24.

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Steve Webb 26:11
Well, here we are episode 250 of season 12. And you really came through with our special episode 250 donations. First up, we have a distinguished producer, Kevin of North Carolina came through with a $250 donation. And Kevin, thank you, Kevin sent a note with his donation. And he said I wanted to send a note to say thank you. I started listening and streaming SATs at the beginning of season 12. But I’ve been meaning to give back more. I’m a new believer in your podcast continues to open my eyes and my heart and help me grow in my faith. You’ve often encouraged us to stick with it, to keep reading and listening and to read the entire Bible. I wanted to give some of that back and encourage you. You’re making a big difference in my life. And I’m sure in the lives of many others. As Paul wrote to Timothy in yesterday’s reading, you must continue. I’m going to continue and I hope you do too. You’ve said before that God called you to do this, and I’m glad he did. And I’m glad that you listened. I pray that if or when he calls me that I’ll have ears to hear, and that I’ll be just as ready and willing to serve Him. And Kevin signs off with God bless you, my friend. Well, Kevin, God bless you too. And thank you for your very kind note. I’m just so happy to know that the show’s helping you as a new believer. And thanks so much for your encouraging words. They do mean a lot to me. And of course thank you for streaming the SATs and with this donation. So now what you need to do Kevin is let me know if there’s a specific episode you want your distinguished producer ship to be applied to send me an email Kevin.

Steve Webb 27:55
And we’ve got not one but two associate producers today. Kevin of Edmonton sent in a $25 Canadian dollar donation. And Kevin God bless you for that. And then also Kirsty, you know, Kirsty you’ve heard that name right once or twice, Kirsty send in a $25 donation as well. Thank both of you for that. This is the first time the show’s had two associate producers on the same day. So I think that’s fantastic. Thank you for responding. God bless you guys.

Steve Webb 28:23
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Steve Webb 28:55
On this date in church history may 9 1760 Nicholas Ludwig Count von Zinzendorf, who was a German pious reformer and a huge pioneer in foreign missions, and reorganize the unit is Fratrum into the Moravian, or bohemian Brethren Church passed away on this date in 1760. And on May 9 1983, Pope John the second announced the reversal of the Catholic Church’s 1633 condemnation of Galileo the 17 century scientists who first espoused the Copernican or sun centered theory of our solar system from 1633 to 1983. Well, good on Pope John Paul the second.

Steve Webb 29:40
Prayer requests. Well as I record this, the lovely lady LeeAnn is in the air flying back to me from Florida, according to flightaware.com right now she’s over Arkansas. She has a layover in Las Vegas than it’s just a short hop to the Ontario airport where I’ll be picking her up tonight at midnight, or as you’re hearing this last night at midnight Pacific time, so please join me in praying for his safe and uneventful flight. A little bit of a report here she had a great time with Tim and valley in Florida. Their church did a baby shower at the home of one of their best friends who are also on the worship team with them. I don’t know if I’ve mentioned it on the show before but Tim plays guitar and Val sings. It’s kind of funny, but his friends names are Steve and Val. We all kind of share names, I guess. LeeAnn and I met Steve and Val when we were back there earlier this year. Well actually, we met them on New Year’s Eve. So I guess it was last year. That was the trip you might remember where LeeAnn and I got the Rona in had to come home early. We had planned to stop in Fredericksburg to meet up with Adam Curry and his wife, Tina. But we didn’t want to make them sick. And then a few weeks later, Adam got it anyway. So back to LeeAnn’s trip.

Steve Webb 31:05
They went to church this morning, and the church had set up a really nice place for families to take Mother’s Day pictures. So I’ll post one of those on the show notes page if you’d like to see it, that a show notes pages at Lifespring media.com/s 12 e 250. And if you’re using one of the new fancy podcasting 2.0 podcast apps to listen to the show, I’ll have that picture in the chapter art right about now.

Steve Webb 31:29
And good news, Kathi is doing much better. She went to the urgent care yesterday since she was having such a hard time and they found out that she had an infection. So now that she’s got antibiotics going, she’s improved a lot. So praise the Lord for that. Thank you for your prayers there.

Steve Webb 33:25
If you’ve got a comment, go to Lifespring media.com/s 12 e 250. Scroll to the bottom of the page where you’ll find a place to put your comment. Email me at Steve at Lifespring media.com And thanks again for the special episode 250 donations, distinguished producer Kevin of North Carolina. By the way, are you a hurricane’s fan they’re up to in the playoffs looking good. And associate producer Kevin of Edmonton and are you an Oilers fan? Right now you’re tied at one against the kings. Both of your teams did much better than my team, the ducks. We’ve had a tough season but I’m happy for your teams. And then of course associate producer Kirsty who does so much for the show in terms of time, talent and treasure. Thank you, Kevin and North Carolina, Kevin of Edmonton and Kirsty of Perth, Australia. I appreciate you guys so much. God bless you. If you missed the deadline, but would still like to donate to the show. Go to Lifespring media.com/support. And until tomorrow, may God bless you richly. My name is Steve Webb. Let’s meet right back here tomorrow. Shall we see you then. Bye.

Adam Curry 34:30
Thank you very much, Steve.

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